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Post by SilentDream on Jun 13, 2010 14:49:39 GMT -5
I'm watching: Your $$$$$ on cnn 6/13/10, 3pm-4pm EST
I just heard that the unemployment rate is lower for women than for men right now. There is a very slight difference in percentage... but why do you think that is?
Some of the stay-at-home dads talked about the differences in perceptions when they are out during the day with their young children. They feel more negative responses than positive responses.
What assumptions do you think are being made and how would your response compare?
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Xgriz
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Post by Xgriz on Jun 16, 2010 21:27:49 GMT -5
My idea is that maybe employers want more men because women get pregnant and go on leave, which screws them up. Right now employers are no longer thinking short term since this recession seems to be here for good. The long term in this case would seem better since they have too much to worry about now to where they need some certainty of a good future.
As for what the men said about the negative responses, it doesn't really surprise me. The way I see it is this. In a natural world, men go out and hunt to gather food for the family unit. The women stay home to care for the family, making sure that the offspring succeed at living and learning. I am betting that it might not be the case, however it seems like a good point to me.....
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Post by SilentDream on Jun 17, 2010 17:23:18 GMT -5
My idea is that maybe employers want more men because women get pregnant and go on leave, which screws them up. Right now employers are no longer thinking short term since this recession seems to be here for good. The long term in this case would seem better since they have too much to worry about now to where they need some certainty of a good future. Are you thinking that there is a higher demand for men, so with more competition it is harder for men to be placed? Interesting idea, if so. This report was stating that the unemployment rate for men was slightly higher than women, in other words, more women are working than men. Here's the show's transcript: www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/inthemoney/VELSHI: Mr. Mom for some dads is a choice, but others would rather be working, instead, they are taking care of the kids while their wives work to support the family financially. ROMANS: You know and it use to be the women had the choice you can stay home with your kids or you can go to work. But what happened in the recession is that women are the ones who have a lower unemployment rate, 8.1 percent is our unemployment rate, adult men, 9.8 percent. So, in some cases women have lost that choice, they're out in the work force, dad's at home. Rafer Weigel will look inside one group offering support to dads dealing with life without work.
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RAFER WEIGEL, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): How you doing?
JIMMY BARON, CREATOR, "DADS BETWEEN GIGS:" its guys that are stay-at-home dads.
WEIGEL: Jimmy Baron started this group. Jimmy what made you decide to create this organization?
BARON: Well, it was my own experience. I mean I was out work for three and a half years.
CHRISTOPHER SMITH, UNEMPLOYED ARCHITECT, STAY AT HOME DAD: When I was let go, that morning, I did two interviews that day. And was thinking you know, this may not be so bad. I'm an architect and I've never been out of work before. I'm going on 18 months or so with four kids. It's very stressful. I just never thought it was going to be like this.
BARON: We're talking about guys that are highly trained, guys with masters degrees, education, who are now in these Mr. Mom roles and it's not a typical position for most guys.
BRUCE LAWSON, UNEMPLOYED CHEF, STAY AT HOME DAD: Being overqualified more than anything, I get that more than no responses because they look at executive chef and then some of the jobs I'm applying for just to get a job, line cooks.
SMITH: We're supposed to be the main bread winner. My now ex- wife, I also went through a divorce during this 18 months and you know, I think it just stressed the family out too much.
WEIGEL: It can be more difficult for a man being a stay-at-home dad.
BARON: You know, we're not wired the same as women are and I think a lot of guys, when they go out and go someplace and they're the only guy, I think they may feel embarrassed or it's also you know, you're not going to talk to the other moms on the playground.
LAWSON: Ratio of 10-1 of mothers versus guys, sometimes he'll disappear on the slide and I'll get looks like he's a stalker.
WEIGEL: Wow. Do they look at you strange, is there a stigma being the dad at the park with your son and your daughter?
NATE ELLISCU, STAY AT HOME DAD: I'd say so. You get the, why is this guy here? Why isn't he out and working while mom should be here with the kids?
WEIGEL: The guys here are really thankful that there is something for them to do even it is for an afternoon every few weeks.
LAWSON: I just think it's nice to hang out with other dads who are going through the same boat.
ELLISCU: Have a good time, get the kids together. The male on male bonding type thing going on. Instead of getting with moms and their kids.
WEIGEL: You almost don't want to be able to see them at the next gathering because maybe that's -- shows that they've turned their circumstances around?
BARON: You want nothing more than for some guy to say, hey, I met another guy at Dads Between Gigs and he knew a guy and we networked and now I got a job.
SMITH: I see things are turning, just holding on. Just hoping my time will come again.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
ROMANS: I've been doing a lot of research about getting a job and networking is the number one thing. That's exactly what that group, that's exactly what that group is about, is about networking.
VELSHI: Let's bring Max into the conversation. CNN contributor Max Kellerman joins us as he does most weeks.
MAX KELLERMAN, CNN CONTRIBUTOR: I asked my father about this, he's a shrink, he has been in the field for over 50 years, he said actually some of the people he sees, some of the guys when they're out of work they actually like it. It's, they may not brag about it but they actually don't want to face the pressure but he thinks a minority and most --
VELSHI: I know a few of those and they are quite happy.
KELLERMAN: Mr. Mom and they love it. But mostly it is a dis- empower situation for the man because the one who brings home the paycheck really assumes control.
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